Show Notes
Solving Crimes Using Psi Ability with Former Psychic Detective Elizabeth Rae
Charna Cassell: [00:00:00] Hi everyone. This is Charna with LaidOPEN Podcast, and my conversation today is with a really interesting woman that I met at an event at the, the portal in Marin that was focused around the telepathy tapes, and we struck up a conversation.
Elizabeth Rae is an evidentiary, clairvoyant psychic medium who functions as a psychic detective for established founders and investors. So our conversation, it got into near-death experiences, different forms of psychic ability, intuition, working with the FBI and the CIA.
More and more there's acknowledgement of the value of psyability or paranormal ability or ability to see and [00:01:00] understand things in non-conventional, non-dominant ways of knowing. And so my guest today. Is skilled in that. And what she demonstrates, which I think is really important, is that many of us may have different abilities that we judge and we're reluctant to share or be out about.
And one of the things that I've repeatedly seen is how trauma can be a doorway to spiritual awakening. And so that is also an important part of my conversation with Elizabeth. I really hope you enjoy this episode, and please share it with your friends if you find benefit in it. Welcome, Elizabeth.
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Charna Cassell: It's good to see you.
Elizabeth Rea: Thank you.
Charna Cassell: So we met. A special event for The Telepathy Tapes?
Elizabeth Rea: Yes, we did.
Charna Cassell: And so I I'm very curious about, so one of the things that they talk about on The Telepathy Tapes, which is a podcast I highly recommend to you people listen to if they haven't already tapped into it, is [00:03:00] Psyability. And if you could speak a little bit to
that and also what I love with The Telepathy Tapes is that Psyability
is not pathologized yet. I also see trauma as a doorway to spiritual awakening and potential development of Psyability. What's your experience with that?
Elizabeth Rea: Trauma was my way in to my psychic ability. So I had a near death experience when I was 16, and that cracked the door open. I was above my lifeless body and I became just, I could. I could hear everyone's outside thoughts and inside thoughts, even though my body was unconscious.
So that was my first taste of access to non-local intelligence, which is another term. That describes what it's like to [00:04:00] be psychic. Then different events happened over my life. Then I wound up going to the Hoffman Institute at, which was channeled by a psychic medium. By the way.
The whole process was channeled by a medium, and then after the process, my teacher took me aside and said by the way. You know how you've had those psychic experiences on and off throughout your life? I said, yes. And then she said, well, when you leave here, the doors to your mind are gonna blow wide open.
She said, this isn't official Hoffman advice. I'm just giving you a heads up. And that's exactly what happened.
Charna Cassell: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I've heard really good things about the Hoffman Institute.
Elizabeth Rea: It's a game changer for a lot of people.
Charna Cassell: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And do you. When you look back, do you see that there were signs of these capacities and tendencies as a child or in, in your family as well, like family members having these abilities?
Elizabeth Rea: So I [00:05:00] grew up in a pretty abusive alcoholic family. My mother had borderline personality disorder, which is, you know, Joan Crawford's a great example of that. She wasn't quite. Well, no, she, she was no picnic. Let's just put it that way. So, I spent years kind of trying to heal trauma and pain. After the doors to my mind blew open, I was fortunate enough, I think it was really a manifestation.
I was. Had the privilege of meeting the DalaiLama's Emissary, who is a psychic medium. So I actually sat with him in a friend's garden in Kona, and described the Tibetan view, the Tibetan buddhist view of this ability. And he said, you know, the doesn't make a big move without first consulting.
With the Oracle call and our culture, this is a gift that in our culture, this is a path [00:06:00] to enlightenment. It's not enlightenment. Let's be clear. It's just one path. And he said, and in your culture, it's a scary movie in your culture, people are scorned in your culture. It's just a very different paradigm.
And so that was really, really helpful. But he also mentioned that there, this is also viewed as a gift to people who have had to endure trauma, and it did help keep me safe because I was living in a household as the youngest and it was constant, underlying resentment and anger was the environment. And so it, I can sense when the mood was about to shift,
when the, when the shoe was about to drop. And so that was my, those, that's, that's how I sort of training this sixth sense out of necessity.
Charna Cassell: Right, right. I often think of it as, you know, not just with psychic [00:07:00] abilities, with all sorts of tracking capacities that that a certain quality of vigilance.
It's like, oh, I had a survival strategy and I honed it into a skill. Right. And so that's, that's also what I'm hearing. And so, you know, there are
different abilities in terms of clairvoyance, clairaudience.
Yeah.
Clairvision, clairsentience and everything. And so in terms of how you work, how do you get your information?
Elizabeth Rea: So I am what's referred to as an evidentiary clairvoyant psychic medium. So evidentiary means I come back with pretty specific details. That's how I was able to help uS federal agents investigate cold murder cases because I could access the consciousness of the victim and the perpetrator. So, I'm a very practical psychic medium.
I'm, I'm, I'm not a spiritual counselor guide. I'm not a life coach. I am [00:08:00] very practical.
I really function as a psychic detective or a psychic spy, depending upon your perspective,
and I love it.
Charna Cassell: For people who are not watching this on YouTube and who are listening, she's glowing and lighting up and has the most beautiful, big smile as she says that.
Elizabeth Rea: I love my superpower.
Charna Cassell: Yeah. You love your superpower.
Elizabeth Rea: I do. I feel like the first time I worked with law enforcement it was kind of tested. So they put a double sealed evidence box at my feet and said, well what can you tell us about the
contents of this box? And I said, well, it's a black baseball cap. You're gonna put something else in there and at the last minute you change your mind.
So they opened the box and then they opened the envelope and it was a black baseball cap. And they said, yeah, we were gonna put a more sensitive piece of evidence in there, but we didn't wanna compromise it. Will you come to the murder scene? I'm like, yes, let's go. I felt like Wonder Woman without [00:09:00] the big boobs and the Cape.
I was like, couldn't wait to go. Because I was, I'm not focused on the tragedy. I'm focused on, let, let's get that, let's get the person who did this. Let's go. Mm-hmm. Let's go. Let's go. Mm-hmm. And it's just, I have a taste for justice on the whole. But yeah, it's amazing and I'm not all knowing and all seeing, so let's get that clear.
I'm just, I'd be levitating if I was, but I'm very helpful and very accurate.
Charna Cassell: And so that's what, what I was asking was how, how, what are your, do you get a vision of the black cap?
Elizabeth Rea: Yeah. That's a great question.
So we're, we all operate with a, you know, leaning into a predominant sense. So I'm, I'm visual, so I usually get a picture. Mm-hmm. If I'm identifying a person, I typically get their hair first. And that's because if you think about it, it one of the most identifying characteristics of an individual. If I'm trying to get you to understand who I'm talking about you, I'd say, oh, you know, Susan, she [00:10:00] has, dark blonde hair.
It's a bob, it's about this long. You'd know who I'm talking about. So I usually. Get the hair, which is kind of funny. And then height and personality. And I just kind of dive, just keep going, just keep pulling this, I just keep pulling the piece of yarn. Mm-hmm. And see what unfolds.
Charna Cassell: How, how did that first meeting occur with the agents?
How did they find you?
Elizabeth Rea: Oh, trauma. I was, I was, uh, dealing with. A pretty vigorous stalker who had 16 restraining orders a number of felonies. And what's interesting is four years prior to his arrival, I shared with a friend, I said, there's gonna be a strange man lurking at my door at night. I'm gonna go ahead and get a taser gun.
And [00:11:00] so. That's how it started. And I had to
work with them pretty closely and, and, and a
lot. So I said to one of the agents, so you wanted to be a ballerina when you were young? And she said, oh my God, I still wanna be a ballerina. I use the bar method to exercise. Don't tell anyone at the station. And I said, well, I'm not gonna tell anyone, boy, I just told all of you anyway, you don't know who she is.
She, so I, I said, well, you know, I'm psychic. Right? And then she , said I it clearly. And then I said, would you ever use people like us for investigations? She said, I haven't, but I've watched every episode of Medium. Mm-hmm. Which is a drama based on a true story. Mm-hmm. Or a psychic medium. Did work for a long time with the Phoenix District Attorney.
Yeah. So. She was all about it. And they were being very helpful for me, to me. Mm-hmm. They're being, they're trying their level best to keep me safe and I just wanted to, you [00:12:00] know, return the favor. Even though it was their job, they were really going above and beyond to help keep me safe. So that's how it started.
Charna Cassell: That's, that's amazing. 'cause I've, I've had clients who've been stalked before and they haven't gotten that same kind of help. I mean, it depends. There's so many different
kinds of stalking.
Elizabeth Rea: well, it has to do with my jurisdiction. So I live in a national park and we have federal law enforcement here.
So it's not SFPD is involved who's, so it's a different laws are, the laws are different here.
Charna Cassell: So, so for anyone listening, if you think you're, we're gonna get stalked to move to a national park.
Elizabeth Rea: I mean, yeah. I mean, anyway, yeah. So that's. That's the difference. And, and you're right. I mean, stalking charges are, there's an incredibly high threshold of evidence you have to meet before.
Mm-hmm. They can, they, they can or they will prosecute for stalking. And [00:13:00] I, I was met with those restrictions and it also really pissed me off and I thought, well, I'm pretty, you know, I'm pretty strong and resourceful and I'm willing to fight. But there are people who don't have those inner resources, and there are people who are dealing with far worse things than I am.
I really do enjoy keeping people out of harm's way. Like, and, and I, what I do now is I keep people outta harm's way in business But also help them spot opportunities. That. They're not going to see with some of their expert advisors, all their critical thinking, all their lived experience, all their data, that that's all valuable, but it cannot see what
psychic intelligence can see.
Charna Cassell: Right, right. Just going back for a moment, I mean, it's this interesting thing that I think a lot about the, that when we're in the center of an incredible challenge.
Elizabeth Rea: Yes.
Charna Cassell: We don't always see [00:14:00] the opportunity or gift or you know, whatever word you wanna use to describe it until
some time passes. And so if you hadn't had that stalker, you might
not have been introduced to these federal agents in this particular way, in this particular thing that you love and light up around.
Right. You may not have had
access
to.
Elizabeth Rea: Yeah. It's the law of opposites, right? There's for every, you know, for every challenge or pain, there's an equal benefit available if you're, if you're patient enough and open to it. I believe that anyway. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
and I remember making a, I mean, actually I made a proclamation out loud 'cause people were saying, why don't you move?
And said, I'm not moving. He's moving. And they, well, and they would say, why aren't you scared? I'm like, yeah, I'm scared, but I'm choosing courage, which is being scared and doing it anyway. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And that's like the healthiest response to me right now. So that's what I'm doing. And I'm glad I did because if I did move, then I just go somewhere [00:15:00] else and be scared about something else.
Charna Cassell: Yeah. I mean, and then here, here's the thing that I can also be, and, and this might be off or might be on, but we, the way that I also see it is we get these opportunities to, if, if we had to dissociate from a situation as a child. Yeah. Then there's reoccurring
events that give us the same opportunity to feel the core feelings to process through the original wound and you were not safe in your home.
No, and and you didn't get a choice, right? No. And so here, this situation, you're like, no, this
is my space. This
is my home. You know, you get to take a stand for yourself in a totally different way, and
claim your safety there. So that's perfect.
Elizabeth Rea: I've actually never looked at it that way, but that's a great frame.
It's true.
Charna Cassell: Oh yeah, I've, I've had a lot of interesting trials around my home and opportunities to revisit terror. I [00:16:00] know. And that's the thing. You, I can either stay someone my, I had a home invasion and my realtor who I told was like, do you wanna sell your house? I was like, what? For a moment I thought, oh, Montana is calling me.
And i'm like, no, this is, I built this, this is my home. And so the opportunity is to revisit the actual original feelings that were activated in my system and it had nothing to do. Way scarier to have, you know, violence inside your household than to have a stranger break into your house.
Yes. When you're home. Do you know what I mean? So, yeah. So you stayed taking your space back.
Elizabeth Rea: Well, I met a Brazilian witch who helped me cast and I'm not kidding, I ca she only would talk to me if I had, if I was vouched for, my abilities were vouched for.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. She said, because this is a
spell
and a tradition that's been passed down orally for hundreds of years. Mm-hmm. [00:17:00] So someone vouched for me. We spoke, we did a little thing. I just swear I would never reveal it and I won't.
And he hasn't been back since.
Awesome. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm so glad to hear that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Charna Cassell: You're, you're still working with federal agents as you also are working with business?
Elizabeth Rea: No, I'm not working with law enforcement anymore. The person who I was working this sergeant, she's since retired. I think at some point, you know, if there is a compelling case, I would, mm volunteer.
And if, if I had space I would volunteer. But no, I work with established founders and investors now. Because, you know, these people have a lot of influence and I only work, and to be clear, I'm not working with just any old established founder or investor.
They have to have a good heart. They have to be doing good in the world. Mm-hmm. Because my intention is because they have power and [00:18:00] influence. I wanna amplify their ability to. Influence in a good way. Yeah. So that's, that's my target market. It's those people. 'Cause really, I mean, a lot of, a lot of damage can be done in business, but also a lot of opportunity and, and, and revenue and creativity can occur if their, their path is a little safer or they can spot opportunities that they may have missed. Mm-hmm. So that's where I've chosen to take it, which is unusual. I was at this, I was at an event of founders and venture capitalists, and this woman said, you're quite a corporate medium. I said thank you.
That's what I'm going for. I wanna be like Clark Kent. I don't want you to know. I just want you to, you know what I mean? I don't, I'll, I'll let you know if I think you need to know.
Charna Cassell: Yeah. Well, what's interesting though is also [00:19:00] you get to have a really big reach. You know, when, if you're working with people that are established in a particular way, and as you said, they're like, I, I would, I would also add Embodied leaders, but heart-centered leaders Yes. That are impacting on a larger scale impacting change, and so you get to vicariously have a bigger reach in that way.
Elizabeth Rea: Right. Yeah. Right. That's, that's my strategy. That's my intention. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I mean, so for years, you know, I was in the closet. I was in the closet for 14 years. Mm-hmm. And I was friends with the medium, but, and he would tell me about his readings and I thought, I mean, you know, I think it's fine to talk to grandma, but that's just not what I'm meant to do.
And I couldn't figure out what I was meant to do. And I thought, because again, I'm not all knowing and all seeing, and then I did a, a session with a gentleman who owns institutional investing firms. He's [00:20:00] quite successful also. He was skeptical. Mm-hmm. Then his, I brought in his grandmother. I brought in his mother.
He was crying. Within the first five minutes, he was blown away and then months later I asked if he would join me for coffee and I said, what would, if I helped you with your business? I mean, because he told me how profound. That meeting was, and it changed his perspective. He didn't hope that there was life after death.
He had evidence, he said he was less stressed, he was not as angry. Mm-hmm. So I asked him, well, what do you think if I use my superpower to help you in business? And he said, I'll put you on retainer right now. Mm-hmm. And that was how Insightful was born. And he's a good guy. He's a very good guy. Devoted husband, father philanthropist, just volunteers, just kind.
Mm-hmm. Kind a, he's a kind, [00:21:00] successful man with a heart.
Charna Cassell: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So really invested in using your power for good. Yeah. Yeah. Like Wonder Woman without the big boobs and the cake. And the, and the, and the glass plane.
Elizabeth Rea: Oh. I love her. Really love her magic. I love her magic. Her golden magic Lasso of Truth so much.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That my friend bought me a Wonder Woman branded gold phone charger cord. I could pretend I had her Lasso of Truth.
Charna Cassell: Yeah. It's an interesting thing, the idea of lasso of Truth of like not just getting other people to, to spill the beans, but also when you have the ability and you're seeing things all the time, [00:22:00] potentially, how to navigate what you share with people you know and what you don't.
And tricky and, and in a way, I mean, it's an interesting thing like. You have an explicit career that labels you psychic. And I sit with clients where clients will sometimes look at me and go, did you just read my mind? And they, you know, just like what I was just thinking you just said, or whatever it is.
And it's, it's condoned in it's useful in that container, but outside of those walls, yes. People don't always wanna be seen.
Elizabeth Rea: That is right. And people who are hiding things, especially, they're up to no good, are very uncomfortable in my presence. Mm-hmm. Which is fine by me.
Charna Cassell: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. How does it, how, so this is one of the things that's so interesting, right?
How does that show up for you around dating?
Elizabeth Rea: Oh, well this is an excellent question. So I have friends who are psychics, [00:23:00] uhhuh, we trade with one another. Mm-hmm. Because when, so intuition is all emotions, no logic. Mm-hmm. So when your own emotion is involved, you don't see as clearly.
Mm-hmm. So I have a friend who used to be a psychic spy for the CIA and she and I trade, and then I have another friend who. Uses her ability to pick stocks and just herself, she doesn't, she's not especially being kidnapped. And we just trade really. It's so, mm-hmm. Yeah. As I mentioned before, I'm not all knowing and all seeing I would, I'd probably be levitating if I was. Relationships are, it's interesting because I can get blurry, but I can also. Still see.
Charna Cassell: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Sure.
Elizabeth Rea: Loud and clear. It just depends. Yes. Mm-hmm. But I, I, you know, I think, I believe that, you know, your, your life is a story you're telling yourself about yourself. So I'm choose to tell myself the story that even if I am
romantically [00:24:00] involved with someone, that I can still see clearly.
And if a man is uncomfortable with my ability. 'Cause some are really drawn. Yeah. I think it's fascinating and wonderful. And others immediately are uncomfortable and that's because they have something to hide, which is great because we don't have to waste any time.
Charna Cassell: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Absolutely.
Good.
I'm curious to go back to the NDE. The near death experience. Yeah. And
I was listening to something where you were talking about the experience of bliss, and I have a friend who also the, that sense of bliss after her stroke lasted for years. Wow. Like total removal of like pure neutrality and all the stuff with her parents, like all those emotions from abuse and neglect and whatever.
Everything was neutralized. Yeah. And so she was in that state of bliss and eventually emotions came back. But I'm curious for you, [00:25:00] did it only exist during, before you came back into your body or did it remain?
Elizabeth Rea: Unfortunately, it was just during the NDE that I felt the state of bliss and peace and kind of, uh, yeah, no, then I had to go home.
And go home to my very hurt body. And then I never told anyone, I
didn't tell
my parents until anyone about this experience because I
just
knew they would think I was nuts or that I was making it up. Mm-hmm. There was no one to share it with. So that was challenging. Hmm. Because I had a, I had a peak at another reality that I knew was very real.
Charna Cassell: And did it stay, did that ability stay with you or did it not open until you went to the Hoffman Institute years later?
Elizabeth Rea: Yes, it opened in fits and starts. So like I would, you know, I would, one [00:26:00] day I was driving down the highway and I saw in my mind's eye a car. Flipped over with people milling around it at like a 45 degree angle, and it's very specific, right?
Mm-hmm. And then about three miles later there it was, was exactly what I saw. So I would get, so that's called precognition. So I'd have precognitive events, uhhuh, and then I was asked to potentially collaborate on a project with an architect friend of mine. This is another chapter of my life.
And he said, I, I have to tell you though, there's this project has some history to it. And I said, oh, okay. What's that? And he said, well, there's a building in downtown Napa called the Faja Building, and there was a vicious murder that occurred and there were two sisters and one sister was slain. Hmm. And, and that's the building we're going to.
It, it's been shut up like a time capsule [00:27:00] for about 20, 25 years. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And I said, okay, well let's go. And so I actually met the murderer in my, in a lucid dream in my sleep. And I literally sat up in bed. Yeah. And I saw he's got a dirty white T-shirt. He's got kind of longish, dirty blonde hair.
And then I saw this tail fin of an old fashioned car that was white but weathered. And then I saw these really shiny small round green leaves surrounding this tail fin. I thought, okay. Well that was, that was interesting. I knew it was the murderer. Yeah. I knew it. And it's just an, and that's how this works.
You just have an immediate knowing. Yeah. That's, that you can't deny. And so I met my friend and I met the developer. This is a three story building. We're getting a tour. We come to [00:28:00] this
place where there's it's just by where there's an ice
chest and a kitchen area. I felt this surge in my chest and I pushed my friend aside and I to get out of this spot, the energy of this spot, and I asked the developer, Hey, is this the spot where the body was found?
Now mind you, it's three stories. He said, yeah, you're actually right by the spot. Mm-hmm. And she was. Murdered viciously,
possibly with a ice pick from his chest.
Mm-hmm. So here's what's crazy about, within about 30 days, the murderer was identified with DNA evidence in a Colorado prison. He was serving time for a violent rape, so he was still alive.
Mm-hmm. And what was revealed was he stole her white Cadillac and it had never been found. Mm. So that tailfin I was seeing. Mm-hmm. So that was like, okay. I'm like, okay, something's [00:29:00] something. And, and it just got stronger and I hid it because I didn't know what to do with it. Yeah. I wasn't really interested in people's judgments and skepticism.
And then, you know, it was just really just last year where I said I, it's not my responsibility to manage other people's perceptions of me. Mm-hmm. Or anything else. Mm-hmm. And I don't care anymore. This is really powerful and it's very real. The CIA, the FBI, foreign and domestic militaries all use us.
Yeah.
And whether you believe it or not, it's happening so. I just thought I, I don't need to convince anyone. I don't need to. I mean, it's kind of funny. I used to be skeptical, so the jokes on me. Mm-hmm. I have compassion and understanding for people who are skeptical, but it
just found like as soon as I came out of the closet, so to speak, I've been really surprised at how welcoming and embracing and curious people have been.
And I think. That's [00:30:00] reflected in the phenomena of The Telepathy Tapes. Yeah. So huge right now.
Charna Cassell: So you had started to tell me something before we were recording. Can we revisit that?
Elizabeth Rea: Yeah, sure, sure. So The Telepathy Tapes starts with episodes about telepathy and a population of non-speaking autistic children.
Who have telepathic ability with their parents or siblings, people close to them. And I actually know one of the researchers for this, for The Telepathy Tapes, this is all very real. They're stunningly accurate and the CIA just infiltrated them.
Charna Cassell: And, and when you say infiltrated...
Elizabeth Rea: Yeah, so they posed. I don't, obviously don't, I don't have all the details, but essentially they posed as like wanting to be a caretaker or volunteer for these non-speaking autistic [00:31:00] children who possess this telepathic ability because it's so powerful. So that the infiltrator just, you know, didn't show up in a black suit and a, you know, black hat.
Like it's not, it wasn't like that, it wasn't obvious. It was a very subtle it was very subtle. Way to gain trust. I mean, my thought is probably one of these telepathics tipped off the producer. I mean, you can't, you can't, I'll just tell you my, yeah. The federal, the federal agent that I worked with, she bought me this coffee cup.
She said, oh, I, I had to get this, you brought it from Washington, DC and it says, my third eye can see right through your bullshit. So that's. So it's prob that's probably what happened. I mean, you can't be a CIA
operative, a secret one for very long around people this ability.
Charna Cassell: Yeah. Well, I mean, I guess the, the, the fear that I would have is that they were in, like when you say [00:32:00] infiltrating that they were infiltrating and then wanting to cause them harm in some way, or stop them or use them or, you know, like, I, I can't remember what episode it was. It's first season early on and it's an interesting thing. It's like in order to protect your kids not wanting the information out there, because what are they gonna wanna do, just like with aliens or something? Like take these beings and then try to study them and try to like not support them in learning how to communicate and no have resources, but it really for their own use.
To, to weaponize them. Yeah. Yeah.
Elizabeth Rea: Well, I mean the Stanford Research Institute for many years did psychic research under Dr. Russell Targ and Doc Dr. Hal put off, they did research. They also served five presidential administrations because we are using this technology in military. So it started with the Russians had a huge [00:33:00] army.
Chinese have a huge army.
And then what happened was, Stanford research Institute Pro research, psychic research program was dismantled, but you're not gonna kill the golden goose. So those individual remote viewers or psychic spies went to work for the CIA or other agencies.
So, I mean, it can be, it's like anything, it can be used for good, it could use for evil.
But honestly, I think more people are waking up and tuning into these abilities. And I think that's, I think that's a really good thing and we, I think being, I just met a young woman who's going through a real trial because she just had, she just had this ability crash into her life. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Nothing she was prepared for. She can't talk to her family about it. So I offered to, you know, just help her find the dimmer switch and help her understand she's not alone. There are many of us and there's a reason why there's been secret societies [00:34:00] and wisdom schools for a long time because
mm-hmm. Yeah. You don't. That's why I, I like the analogy of Clark Kent, because you can't tell. Mm-hmm.
So, yeah, it's, you have to be discerning about who you share with
and what you share.
Charna Cassell: Do people, do you, do you work with people in their and their pets or mostly your, your focus, like, you know Yeah. It sounds like you've, you're mentoring this young woman and so that's, you know?
Elizabeth Rea: I'm just mentoring her out of, you know, compassion. 'cause I know what it was like, but that's not a part of my business.
Yeah. My business isn't really. It's like any business, you, you really need to know your target market and who you serve. Mm-hmm. And who you don't. And so I'm clear about who I serve. It's very specific.
Charna Cassell: Yeah. There's something very powerful about niche, you know, like getting, dialing it in and having that connection to your, your Dharma or your, your purpose.
Elizabeth Rea: A hundred percent. Yeah. I mean, I was actually kind of, [00:35:00] no, I kind of, I was, I've been told like, and ultimately.
I will serve 12 very influential, high net worth individuals who have a good heart and are doing good in the world. And then after that, I'm not taking any on any more clients. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
That's it. I'm just gonna work with this council. It's actually The Sacred Circle of Tweleve is the name I was given. Mm mm-hmm. And so I'm pretty clear about what I'm supposed to be doing. Mm-hmm. And then the other time, another time I should have some fun. 'cause I don't always have enough fun.
Charna Cassell: I understand. I'm, I'm curious about any regular spiritual practices that you engage in for yourself.
Elizabeth Rea: Yeah. Yeah. So this is what's. I just had a conversation with a psychic medium from New York. I was introduced to him by his friend who's a paranormal research scientist, [00:36:00] and he's had all of this training. Mm-hmm. And gone to all of these schools and I have done nothing.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And then I heard from a friend who's medium that he met this incredibly talented psychic medium from England, an older woman. And he said, oh, who did you study with and what do you do? And she said, oh, love, I don't, I've never studied anything that would ruin it.
Charna Cassell: Yeah, yeah. That's what they, they I've had writing You know a friend who works in an MFA program in grad school and she would, I wanted to go to grad school for writing and she was like, don't do it. It'll ruin your creative. No. Yeah.
Elizabeth Rea: So I thought I should, I should study remote viewing. 'cause I had the, I had the honor of speaking to Dr. Russell Targ from the Stanford Research Institute.
Mm-hmm. So I got interested in, what is this protocol called? Remote viewing. So I signed up [00:37:00] for an online class, a live. I freaking hated it. I mean, I didn't dislike it. I was like, oh, way to take all the magic and all the joy and, and just destroy it.
Charna Cassell: Wow.
What, what about, I mean, you, because you mentioned the Dalai Lama's person. Yeah. I mean, in Tibetan Buddhism, lucid Dreaming is a tool that's Yeah, that's, that's used. And so what about. I mean that's, it's, it's a different version of remote viewing.
Elizabeth Rea: Yeah. It's just different. Well, so I used to have lucid dreams and that, and then it's just like, I wanna go to sleep. You know? Totally. Oh me, I do not need this during my sleeping time. No, thank you. You can come later. Make an appointment.
Charna Cassell: So in terms of people, this is a two part question. In terms of people who either, I know that you, you went to the Hoffman Institute, you haven't done a lot of other kind of like formal study, but [00:38:00] for people who want support, like you're mentoring this one woman, what, are there other resources that you would recommend and then also for developing intuition, which basically is listening to your different abilities. Right. Is there a
specific exercise that you might guide our listeners through?
Elizabeth Rea: Well, I will say I have a multi-part answer, so everyone's different. I'm not, I'm not a big joiner. I'm not, I don't wanna be part of an ism. Mm-hmm.
But some people do and that's great. And they should go ahead and do that. Interestingly enough, I had this gathering at my home based on the book, the Power of Eight, which really mm-hmm. Is the power of healing and the power of pRaeer, whatever you would like to call it. And this one friend, she's originally from Taiwan, and she remarked on the self-help movement.
She said, you know what we have to say about the [00:39:00] self-help that Americans are always doing. And I said, no, I do tell. I wanna know. And she said. Self-help is good, but what you really need is community. Mm-hmm. And so that's what made the difference for me, was just having community. And actually I've been, I dunno if I should say this or not, I'll, but I've been, I'm meeting with Tim Chang of The Portal and a Paranormal Research Scientist, and we're talking about creating a modern mystery school there.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Because it really does work best in a community. So my, I also met very briefly, I met a very famous psychic medium and James von Prague at a party two weeks after my awakening, which is kind of interesting timing. And I was sitting on the couch next to him. Mm-hmm. And I said, oh, James, I think I might be psychic.
And he started laughing at me. [00:40:00] He said, oh, honey, you're a psychic medium. You're so good. You can solve murders. Mm-hmm. I mean, and, and so I wanna do this, I wanna talk to dead people. So a lot of this is just, I think, finding community and we're all different, and we all have different values and interests and priorities.
But I'd say that's number one. Really. So I would say that's the first thing to do. I haven't studied, I never studied, and I, as I mentioned, I don't really have interest in studying.
I'd rather just keep doing it. Yeah. Than strengthening my muscle. That's the best way to do it. So. I think the thing to do, if I could give one piece of advice about intuitive ability is trust yourself. Trust it. It does feel in the beginning as if you're making it up, you'll say to yourself, am I making this up?
Well, it comes from the same area of consciousness where we do make things up. [00:41:00] So it has a similar taste, but when, if you notice parts of your body will light up when you're receiving an intuitive hit, it could be the hairs on your arms stand up or you, you get a feeling in your gut, whatever it I, I know a client of mine, his face, face tingle.
I say, okay, that's your, I call it a psychic receipt. That's your psychic receipt. Mm-hmm. That means that you're not making it up. It's actually a download. So it is so simple and I have to say there's a lot of, and it's just, this is my opinion. There are a lot of psychic schools that I believe in my experience of them and haven't experienced, all of them are complicating to profit.
It is just that simple. Mm-hmm. You don't need a whole thing school, you know, like you just a certificate. You just, we're all intuitive. We just have to put aside for a moment, our cultural paradigms, our [00:42:00] religious paradigms or atheistic paradigms and our, our paradigms around science, scientific materialism.
Mm-hmm. If you can just allow them to be and trust what you're getting, that's it. That's how you're intuitive and there is no more complicated than that. Yeah. Yeah.
Charna Cassell: And, and so for people who
are listening, who, who want to develop their intuition mm-hmm. And want to practice listening inward mm-hmm. Is, is there anything that, any kind of practice that you would guide people through?
Elizabeth Rea: I don't have a protocol. Mm-hmm. Some people do. Mm-hmm. It just comes to me naturally.
I have Created a dimmer switch. My antenna is not up 24/7. I wouldn't be able sleep. It would be very distracting. So I open up the channel intentionally when it's time to open it up, but because it's a dimmer switch, it'll flip on if I [00:43:00] need it. But yeah, I mean, simple meditation is a great way. Mm-hmm. I'm not mm-hmm. Good at meditation because I have an in my pants. Mm-hmm. And I actually had an Ayurvedic physician said I shouldn't meditate. Mm-hmm. Which I was like, really? Are you allowed to say that? I think you're gonna lose your job. And he said, Nope.
He said, Nope. You have too much pita. You should run and sweat. I was like, oh, thank God. That's awesome. Yeah. So that is how I do it.
So any, anything else that you would like to share with our audience before we shift?
Yeah, just thanks for listening and being open to listening and it's okay if you're skeptical, but you can, you know, you can look, take a look at what the Stanford Research Institute did for five presidential administrations. Mm-hmm. You can see how this can translate very well into businessand to investing.
It's powerful. So you can not believe it, but you're, you're kind of missing out [00:44:00] if you are not at least a little bit curious.
Charna Cassell: And, and how can listeners find you?
Elizabeth Rea: You can find me at Insightful.Foundation, weird URL. Insightful.Foundation
and there's a Let's connect button. I do work by referral, so please be sure to say you heard me on this podcast.
And then we can take a look at the website if it's something you're interested in exploring. You're not just curious, but you're actually interested in exploring the benefits of this. We can have a no obligation chat about it and mm-hmm. Uh, really it's just that simple. I don't, I don't, I mean, probably to your dismay, I have no social media presence deliberately because I want to, you know, guard my con the confidentiality that I offer my clients and the discretion.
So I don't have a social media presence. I have a very [00:45:00] reluctant LinkedIn profile, but that's it. Mm-hmm. That's it.
Remember i'm Clark Kent. Okay. I'm Clark Kent.
Yeah. Yeah. And, So thank you. Thank you so much for your time.
Oh, thank you. Thank you for, for being open and curious and, and for doing what you do. I mean, around this whole topic of trauma, it's, it is, you know, really our most painful moments and experiences are the key to our, or they can be the key to our purpose. Mm-hmm. Truly. Yeah. Well, and and my little pRaeer for you is that maybe one of your 12 is listening Aw. Much. Maybe they find you. Thank you. Yeah, because I love that intention.
Charna Cassell: It, you know, it's, it's an important thing. I like the intimacy of working one-on-one with people, but part of doing this podcast is having a [00:46:00] bigger reach, is offering resources to people around the world.
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