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Ascending Multiple Lifetimes with Sarah Strong

This week we welcome Sarah Strong. She is a star seed coach, divine feminine activation coach, medium empath, telepath, and psychic. She also channels star beings, beings from other dimensions, and many other beings of the light, including the ascended masters angels, and fairies.

Together we speak about how trauma can be a gateway to spiritual awakening, paranormal phenomenon, how trauma is associated with spiritual awakening and what can happen when you push a young person well beyond what they’re capable of handling, and how a reaction to that manifests in a variety of ways. 

She also guides us in a lovely meditation that’s sure to help you clear space as you start 2023.

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Sarah strong is a star seed coach Divine Feminine activation coach medium Empath, telepathic and psychic she channels the star beings beings from other dimensions and many other beings of the light including the Ascended Masters angels and fairies during a session she will also channel your spirit guide welcome Sarah life is about to start isn't it with honor deciders calm Thank you, John. It's such a pleasure to be here. I'm excited to see where this goes. Because you know, it can it can really go anywhere. Yeah. So I'm curious about what was your path towards discovering and developing these gifts and skills? Ooh, that's a really really beautiful question. The answer has come from past lifetimes. So my past lives I've lived in the stars. So I have been cleared in arcturion. Andromeda in Lyran. I can see you're getting chills. Like I love when, when you have a physical experience of what I'm saying, because that means I'm not foolish. It's like I hear you get it, you know. I mean, I was very much a skeptic before. I had a language for all of this before I actually could explain and have a language to explain how I felt because because even though I was this magical star being they call me a galactic mutt my guides told me a galactic map because I've had so many lifetimes from the stars. What I wanted to do was go around and collect all the, all the gifts from all of these other past slides. And like really know them and be extremely, like, really learned and really attuned to each of the gifts. So you know, Andromeda in they can tend to be they're very high, you know, very, very base in unconditional love. All of them are very based in unconditional love. But each of them has a different years. Some are more telepathic, some are stronger, psychically, some, you know, the mediumship is stronger. So I traveled through all of these different planets and dimensions to collect all these gifts. So that when I came through the portal, I've been through the portal on earth 1000s and 1000s. And 1000s of times, I think I went to see this lady, of which I didn't believe everything she told me some of it was total bullshit. But one thing she did say, that really like kind of blew me away was that I've been on earth 274,000 times or something like that. Wow. That's crazy. And I still like to come down here and like, fuck around. When you were when you're getting that reading from that person, I'm assuming it was a reading and hearing said some of it was total bullshit. Like, how did you receive the information? How did you know? Is it a feeling in your body? Was it a thought that the parts that were bullshit, but then there was the resonance with the school, she told me I could do certain things, which I know in the spirit that I'm not authorized to do, you know, like, override someone else's freewill that was based that that was the biggest like red flag to me that she was saying you can do this. And I'm like, No, I fucking can't. And I know that I would never do that because that's overriding someone's freewill. So that was like the vexation to the spirit that I knew was not in alignment. But yeah, so yeah, some of the stuff she was saying, like did resume and was just interesting. It's just me. I'm, you know, I know there's people out there that don't always tell the truth. And, you know, I like to have myself verify I'd like I'm a scientist at heart as well. So most of my life, I would try and get proof I would want truth before I would, you know, tell someone something or you know, like, explain who I am and what when I come, what I've come here to do, I wanted so much proof. I mean, I've, I've got all that proof. I have enough proof. But to come back to your question about you the journey. So a lot of that journey was done in past lives. And choosing to come to earth this time on this timeline was extremely important because it is the most important time in human history. And we created this so the Galactics with we seated earth, no earthlings, no people, no humans are actually human. They're all seated from the stars, which humanity that I'm reading Conversations with God, I don't know if you've read that book, but I'm on Book Three right now. And it's explaining the shift from how we used to be a matriarchal society fully run by women. And men, this is hilarious. Men were used for lifting heavy things and having sex. So men, because women didn't think men are intelligent enough. I've heard this. Like, we have more synapses between left and right brain hemispheres, this is this is physiological, right? And then we are known to be more emotional, and have more connection with each other with two women will talk way more deeply in a five minute conversation than two men will, you know, like that is fact there is facts around this, you know, so but I just read that today. And so talking about, you know, that shift, you know, that into this world, that is there's all these imbalances, you know, and so, hence why the Galactics really did the pause in 2020 in a very passive way, in a way that would be in service to humanities looking at itself. You know, finding itself, learning what it loves and what it hates, making the necessary shifts and changes. So the choice out of many, many galactic beings are highly awakened galactic beings chose to come here to help other people who are also have like dormant DNA in their bodies, to wake up and have a great awakening so that Earth can ascend. Earth has been in this mire for so long. It's like, very low vibrational, based on greed and hatred, and, you know, corruption and all of this crap. But so we wanted to have that influence. And you know, a lot of us chose to come here to support that energy and to hold space for humanity to ascend and for everyone to live a much higher vibrational, in a higher vibrational way. So yeah, my journey of collecting that was like in the stars, like, we're in Earth years, millions of Earth years. We don't count time, time. It doesn't exist in other dimensions. So for me, it's like being in the human ball feels like a log. In other dimensions, time does not exist. So it doesn't seem as long. And then coming through the portal. This time. My journey started, I had all the gifts realized and in my body, in most recent fast I did, at the moment of my conception, I saw the timeline. It was like a check. It was like, okay, yes, cool. This is the right one. I probably could have escaped at that point, if it wasn't, but you know, it was like a vision. Like they looked down the timeline, I saw the split in humanity, I saw 2020 happening. I didn't know how I didn't know through what device they were going to use. I just knew that they would be connected to what they're calling the vaccine or that kind of thing. Like I knew all of these things instantaneously on coming through the portal and my journey to finding a lot of starting to go through a similar journey. very tumultuous upbringings, you know, a lot of sexual trauma, a lot of mental trauma. I was traumatized mentally by my mom and my brother are very verbally abusive, and like emotionally abusive, I would say psychological abuse, lied to a lot and just had no real basis. Fundamentally, I had nothing like I'm going to the jinkies at the moment really interesting Richard rod or really, really amazing like we've got a coach, working with a coach during that at the moment which just kind of really illuminated you know, that first 21 years if you if you haven't had a secure upbringing, you go into the world as a Wounded Child posing as a An adult of which I am experienced. Very, very in my sights I came into the world at 21 Very wounded and and as an empath we suffer many people do suffer drug and alcohol addiction if you are coming from that tumultuous beginning, so went through that. And then out of that I stopped drinking drugging when I was 37. I was in recovery for eight years. And not long ago. It's just not part of my energy vibration any longer. And then I really started my spiritual journey. So I got led to a book called Crystal masters three through three by an Australian author, Alana, something and I started reading this book, it had a connection to the angel, the crystal and the master. And I get an initiation at the end of each chapter was an in meditation initiation to that energy field. So when I didn't get to Buddha, but I read like Mother Mary Jesus. Yogananda put them on one see Yogananda lady master nada, Kuan Yin, like, literally every single monster up from across the board. It was wasn't just Christina was like, it was just a spiritual book of all the masters. And up until that point, I really hadn't attributed. Like, I had no idea that all that the Masters chose me the book, I went to the store, this book weighed like, a ton of bricks in my hand, it I had a spiritual experience on my feet, like Sal, like they quoted to the floor. And it just tears just came out my eyes. And I was like, Oh, my God, it was like, it was so magical. And so the journey, they just started working through me, and attuning me to the vibration of the masters. And that's what I really started with. Then I moved to Miami and started working, they asked me to start working with people, about a year into my stay in Miami, and I started just do readings for, like, friends, maybe we did, like a, like a trade. So yeah, just started two trades. And then I, I formalized more of my training by getting a coach, and she taught me how to be a coach. So you, you've touched a little bit on this, of when you were speaking earlier, but one of the things that I found, and I actually wrote a paper on this in grad school, and there were so little information back then, and I'd be curious to see what there is now, but I have experienced trauma as a gateway to spiritual awakening. And that, you know, paranormal phenomenon and different things like that, that there's when you as a child are pushed beyond, you know, there's no resource. So it's kind of like the the fourth dimension, or other resources beyond what is considered consensual reality open to you. Because that's all there is, right? Like other humans in your life are not available to protect you or take care of you. And so in that space, you know, I've come to experience things that I thought as a kid, I thought, were learning about dissociation, I thought, Oh, I used to dissociate and then having mystical experiences and enter different kinds of energies landing in my space, realizing, Oh, this wasn't dissociation as a kid. This was actually I was really held. I was being held and protected. Whether I knew it or not. Yeah. Right. So I'm curious if you could say more, you were nodding as I was speaking, if, if this has been your experience, and what you see around this, there's just so much so so much, wow. So as a child, as a soul, firstly, we choose that path. So we've also chosen a host of guides that stay on the other side, to protect us while we're going through the fire. So, although as a child, even some children do experience connection to their guides, I absolutely know that and that's going to start happening more and more because there's no veil anymore. The veil is gone. There is no veil. We see still in the third dimension, but the veil is just there is no veil anymore, so they can have a much bigger influence in children's lives. Children coming here on the next level of vibration, whereas our generation, we didn't have that. So we went through the fire. Really, it was really rough. It was really rough, how we went through, but we designed that. So we also designed hugely powerful beings on the other side, that would just hold space for us as we shuffled through the trauma. And the fact that we went through that claw was so in service to the beings and the tribe that we've come here to serve, because they all chose the same path, in order to then so their drive and their drive and their tribe and so forth. Because we knew we were creating, like a mass energy from, firstly, from the trauma, but then from the deep healing, I was explaining to my partner, Jerry recently that without going to the depths of the darkest dark, inside of my life inside of my soul, I cannot experience the vibrance the absolute ultimate light. So that is that is a soul choice is a conscious choice. And, like, currently, now I choose to go there consciously with coaches, I go there, and I'll do that work. But I don't have to attract the situation in my life anymore. I just choose to go there consciously with proaches and to, to harvest it and to excavate it from the soul. And then you taught us the lessons in a more conscious way. So I absolutely agree with you. So Spirit wanted me to clarify something about spiritual awakening, there's a lot of trauma in spiritual awakening. So yes, also, the trauma of your life puts you in a place where it's just like, oh, I can't take this anymore. There's got to be something more. And it creates what Dr. Demartini, John Demartini explains, as a challenger, you had a full challenger in your life. Whereas if you have supporters in your life, you can just coast along and it's all great, but you're not going to do anything great with your life. Because you're just supported. And it's nice, and it's pretty, it's gonna take off and let's get a degree and just get an awesomely paying job. And we're about to do and you just float through life. And like, that's not everyone's path. The way that those of us who have come here to really make a difference, go through shit. Because you get more out of your soul. That way. It's more, there's more depth. But then you also called on your, the masters and your the people that you've traveled, I mean, the souls that you traveled with all you know, the past lives, who give you power, and support and love and light from the other side. And then oftentimes, like I had my grandfather die, before I was even born. So he was always on the other side, just just just anchoring me beholding me. And protecting me like always, yeah, but that that often happens is, they'll often be somebody on the other side that will help anchor history through the trauma, because you can you can die. Yeah, we do need all this purchase for Gene gal. There's a distinction that I would love if you could clarify, because my understanding is certain beings that could be on your, like your Power team or your support team, right, like Archangel Michael different Archangels. Right. But then there's also what I know less about, and someone made a distinction to me with me about this is a healing team. Right? Do you understand the distinction between the two? And if so, can you explain how we help how we choose or how they choose us? And how if we aren't aware of those, our either support team or our Healing Team, how we can get access to them. Wow, very interesting. Or actually need healing. We are perfect divine beings. We've just manifested in the human form. So in like the human might need some healing, right, which I truly believe that the human wants to connect with another human to hear that is essential. Yes, you can do a bunch of shit on the astral realm to help you heal. Absolutely. I pull in feeling all the time from that. But I do it through humor, just through a coach. That's why I came here. We came into the human experience to feel the brokenness. And I say the brokenness, not meaning that entire its its entirety. It's the separation from so we are all one we're all unified. We are all God. We are all loves. We just up here separated. And the separation is like there's a brokenness we have broken apart from From the source, we are separated from source, but we're not. It's an illusion, that's a divine dichotomy. We are separated from source. But we also have, you know, in the fourth dimension, we don't look separated in any other dimension. But the third, there is no separation. But the energy still is unified. It's just we came here to experience that. So it's kind of a construct of the ego to think that we need healing, which is totally normal. And totally, I totally understand where everyone is coming from in how they've set up a healing terminus, 14, we don't even have a support team, we have our people, we have our tribe, we have our crew, we are the same as them. Why support or healing, it kind of, it kind of indicates that we need something or that we're, you know, that we don't have all that we need with it, which I don't really, I believe we have every single thing we need within us, because all of our guides, God, all the angels, is all within us. It's just in a human construct. It's, it's, it's more difficult to believe that because we're, you know, because we can fuck up all the time when we make mistakes. And we have thinking that gets us you know, it's so dichotomous because we are 100% Human and 100% Divine. And that is such a conflict. With it with the ego reveal is just it can be extremely hard to navigate that. But that's, that's what this that's all about. That's what the work is all about. That's what you're looking at the shadow is all about. It's like going okay, cool happiness, figure out how to live, my most joyful, my most fulfilling life in this form, to complete this mission that I came here to complete. It's, it's like figuring all that out. And it's in that knowingness, that you're the same as your guide, you're the same as God, you're the same as the angels, you are the same vibration at a fundamental soul level, as all of these things. So let's stop thinking of yourself as separate. Stop thinking yourself as an unified feel into the unity of all things and know that you are of source and you've come from source. And there is no separation, just like third dimension looks like it currently. So it's like, it's kind of like going beyond and then coming, you know, anchoring that in the knowingness that there is only there is only love. And that's why a conversation on is It's groundbreaking. If people out there if you guys out there have not read that book, book, one, two, and three, read those books, they will change your life, they will change your perspective, they'll help you anchor into true truth. Like absolute truth. That very, very special. When when you're working with people, you're talking about doing Divine Feminine activation coaching, and, and and what can people expect from that experience? I mean, obviously, there's not a one size fits all, and everyone is in a different place on their path and what that means and what you know. But generally speaking, if you could give a range of examples of what what happens for people in that process, boom, amazing. Yeah, so we just completed a five week deep dive with awakening the divine feminine. And nothing I do is cookie cutter. So everyone comes and they bring their energy and they create a container. So I have plans, and there's questions and all sorts of things that we're going to do together. It's just everybody dictate exactly how it's gonna flow. And they feed into the containers. So what, what we do initially is, there's a lot of meditation. So we'll do a guided meditation, sometimes, the first thing that we do is a guided meditation. Sometimes it comes a little bit later in the session, but Spirit just guides always. And it's always super in alignment and in service to the people that are in the container. And so, what that does is it activates energy, energy points in the body, the chakra points. So we do we get a lot of blessings from the Galactics they come they come into those spaces they associate activation is also a very supported by neglect as well, like my crew, like, wherever I go, they are. Whenever we're going into a meditation, they're like, totally supporting it like for me, and then they give a lot of healing light and a lot of energy. They give a lot of energy and with the divine feminine, who we're working with. You know, Marianne Williamson does this set of deck of cards, the Divine Feminine cards, and so we're working with those cards and all of these like, like, deities and saints and all they're all coming in and just channeling in so much healing energy. So we do a lot of chakra activation. So we'll activate that whole chakra, all the chakras, open them up. So you're vibrating at a higher vibrational level, you're in your feminine, the feminine is magnetic, she is full. She is all knowing, you know, so she helps you clear. So what we also do is we clear the blocks, what's getting in the way of your feeling, because that's the main reason is that you're not filling in divine feminine is that there's something in the way it's that it's not that she's not there. She's in everyone, she's in men and women. And same same with a divine masculine who's in men and women, it's just really clearing the blocks to create the flow again. Because the mind blocks it, you can have a body can block it. old ideas definitely block it sexual trauma can block out like all sorts of things can can block this flow. So we get into that we get into body image, how do you feel about yourself? What do you think about yourself? How do you adorn yourself in the sessions, I encourage everyone to dress it as a different form or version of your goddess each session. So you're like learning about the different expressions of the goddess of how you want to show up for yourself. And so yes, we clear a lot of those blocks. And I can tell you, the ladies that that came to this session, one of them was feeling completely no libido, hadn't for a year. And within, like, immediately after the first sessions she did she got calls from ex levels to ex lovers. You know it because it what it did is NIMS out signals into the collective consciousness that I'm open again, that I'm an active again, I'm here I'm back. It switches, it switches on from the inside. And it's, it's, it's nonsexual healing like the divine sin inside. And it can it can be sexual, like I'm not afraid of doing that. Like, eventually I would love to I'm very sensual person. And that's part of I work with a tantric energy, which I don't I haven't called it that yet. Because there is taboos around it. Some people are scared of that their goal is going to be a sexual workshop. And I'm like, No, it's not. I don't call it tantric yet. But I do work with a tantric energy and it is Tantra. What we're doing is Tantra complete sacred union was your sexual and sensual self. That is that was the main purpose of creating this container. It was reconnecting to your sensual and sexual self. And so we talked a lot about masturbation and completely free self pleasure. Like, it's crazy how many women are guilty when they believe in themselves? Or feel like, this is not okay, you know, from religious, yeah, you know, connections and all sorts of things like not okay to touch yourself or pleasuring himself. And so we clear those blocks and got into that as well. So, and I'm extremely unapologetically myself, you know, and that gives people permission to be that way. Yeah. Along those lines, what is sexual freedom to you? Good question. Could be essential, could be erotic, whatever word resonates for you. So what's coming up first is total acceptance of the body. Number one to me, and as I am getting older, and I looked at my body this morning, and I'm like, Oh, I saw some cellulite there. And then I'm like, Hey, but I love myself. So over the love, will love to cellulite. Because when I'm expressing sexually I don't want to think about any part that I won't love. I just want to seal I want to feel sensual. So sensual, sexual freedom, for me, is there's different forms. So there's this, there's that sexual freedom that I share with my father, which is a different sexual freedom of being able to talk about everything, talk about my kinks, talk about everything that I desire, even though I may not do it all things that I made that may have turned me on in the past that maybe no longer turn me on anymore, but I want to talk about it. I want to have an outlet. So I love I love talking. I love being expressive. When I during the act, and outside the act, it's a huge turn on for me to just express. Maybe it's a fantasy, maybe it's something a fantasy that I will do that I won't do. Whatever I just love to be able to express this as a huge, huge part of sexual expression is just top Think about it. It's not even touching. So that to me is massive. I love open communication around those topics. Here's Vickery. So that's another story. It's another level. So physically being free. Well, so in the past sexually free, I was open minded for a very long time, I would, I would, I would have multiple partners. I most times I was in partnership, we always had extra sexual partners. And that was how I lived. I don't agree with that anymore. That is not, that is not freedom. For me, that was an escape. Let's say that's an escape for everyone. Because there's a lot of joy in having multiple partners. And being truly, you know, polyamorous is it's a beautiful, beautiful thing. And I know, I've seen I see a lot of relationships really worked in that way. A lot don't. But I've seen a lot that do. So for me, freedom is in monogamy. Yeah. Well, what what you're saying is so important, because first of all, are what works for us what we consider freedom, what we what we desire evolves and changes. And then also making that distinction of like, what is free for someone else, versus for us, and always being at choice, right, and being fluid enough to listen to our evolution and what wants to occur next, we're going to search or it's just finding that that the shifts, allowing, like allowing the shifts to happen, and then letting it happen, because that is where society has got stuck. Is is going I know I want something else. But I just can't, or I just don't I just, there's just too much in the way of deciding something, you know, and most recently, in my life, I just had a new iteration of myself has just come in, and I just dropped literally almost everything that I was doing, shut out of my business, turn out a personal turn out of, you know, like expectations of on my energy. And it's like, when you can give yourself permission to say no, and just change everything. You have true continual expansion and transformation, sexually, to do that, to allow that is so powerful, I can talk from my own experience, which is just it's mind blowing. So to really give yourself permission to shift into new energy, and not being governed by things from the past that you felt safe in, that aren't exactly simply safe. They're just a construct. It's just a construct. Yeah, one of the way that I think about it is we have all these things that we identify with, right? All these identities, these hats that we wear are ways that we think we have to be in order to be safe or connected. Yeah. And what you're suggesting is if you step outside of and you allow all of those constructs all those identities to die, or to step out of them, that's, you know, that's where freedom lives. Sure is for you release yourself to the unknown. And in the unknown is where true magic happens? Well, hopefully, we've all spent a lot of time thinking about this over the last few years, but we have been forced to be in the unknown. Right, right. And so inside of that people have made a lot of hard decisions, and also some very liberating decisions, you know, like, I gave up both of my offices and ended up buying a house. And, you know, working from home and making these big changes that, that I didn't have the courage, or I couldn't even imagine how to make it happen previously. And then suddenly, you know, like, stepping away from and letting go of a business collective and letting go of my identity as someone who has to, you know, an office in San Francisco and an office in Berkeley and a connection to San Francisco and then being like, Oh, actually, I want to gurgi more than I want those things. Yeah. Yeah, identity is something that's been coming up very strongly with the work that I do as well. Like, like a change of perspective, a dis identification. I know that's not a word, but Spirit just has me say this word. Why often dis identify, come away from the identification of whomever you might have created to this point in your life, and to understand who you really are, without the identification without the musts without the that the ideas are. Look at your most authentic most royal level, who are you? Yeah. Well, it's an interesting, I'm thinking, that has me think about your relationship to Saks, that you were speaking about previously. And like going, yeah, there was a time in my life where I had multiple partners and, and, you know, one person might look from the outside and go, Wow, you're really sexually self expressed. And in, and for one person, that could actually be a distraction. Yeah, and a way of avoiding yourself and not connecting to yourself. And for someone else, that's liberatory. And they were raised, as you know, Catholic, and this is them, really embracing and getting to know who they are and what they like, it was the formula for me, it wasn't a fourth version on this game, it was a channel that I could hide you. Because as soon as I fell in love truly, with Jerry and my men now, there was a catalyst that happened on my birthday really made me realize that I truly loved him to my, to the core of my soul. And it changed everything. Nothing else mattered, like nothing else. It was just like, it was like this near death, he had a near death experience. Well, wasn't that it looked like that to me. And I was just like, I just realized that did not want anything to happen to him. And it changed everything. It just switched everything around. And I knew that I didn't want to the way how deep we were going inside of the relationship emotionally, sexually, physically. And mentally. I didn't have any thing else to share with anyone else. I don't, I don't like like, where we go within each other within the relationship. That is all I want to handle. That's where I want all of my affection, my attention, my awareness to be, I don't want it to be anywhere else. It's, it's just so pure, that and I'm more vulnerable than I've ever been. And that was what I was missing before. I couldn't admit my own vulnerability, because I'm so scared, of loss on being judged thing abandoned, all of those things that have happened, they happened I manifested all of them in the fast, whereas the deepening happens in vulnerability. Right. Right, and the wrongness. And then in, you know, I'm curious about this. And I know very little about this stuff. But I've been told things and from lots of different sources, and I was talking to a friend who actually does research around like communicating with extraterrestrials. And and he was talking to me about how certain people are we all have come here to do emotional research in human form, to learn what emotions are and to experience the range of emotions. And then it has me just get really curious about how some people like I would say, I'm one of those people came in. Deeply empathic, right? And then it's so funny how some people they think, don't empathize. They can't empathize. And it's like, sometimes you can learn you can teach some, but a lot of it you can't. And can you speak to that? Yes, for sure. Just Spirit just kind of wants to make the distinction between being an empath. Yeah, like having empathy. So that completely Yeah, that completely isolated, they are not that you don't have to have him be an empath to have empathy. Right. But you do have to be an empath to feel the energies of other people, which it's somebody with empathy may not have, right? So that that is so it's so interesting that you talk about that, because definitely the range of emotion, there is only one place to feel. And it's Earth is the third dimension of existence, where earth resides. You cannot feel like experience any of the senses anywhere else in our reality, hmm. And it's a very, very, very powerful place. Because not only can we feel but we can shift. So once you can feel something, you can then shift that energy. And in those shifts, you make those shifts in your soul. So when you ascend or die, those shifts remain in your soul. That hence why coming here and feeling like we don't mind if we're really really, really sad, or really, really, really happy or Anywhere in between the spectrum at a soul level, because that's what we came here to experience. Exactly. You know, like, research is like, it's just curious for highly awakened beings that come here, they want to experience all of this, and then show humans how to not take it so seriously, because it's a fucking illusion. And it's just, it's just a game, it's just a ride. This is not serious. This is play. at us. From a soul perspective, this is all play. It's just the world wants to take themselves so seriously, and involve greed and money, and all of these things, obviously, that are necessary at this level of evolution. But it's one of the most archaic civilizations. Yeah, absolutely. Currently, it's the most archaic civilizations. And so then what do you what do you think about? I mean, we have, there's so much language, it gets batted around. And of course, having a president who is a narcissist definitely had us come into more understanding around what narcissism is. And then you look at somebody like Putin, what do you make of that range, and the roles that they play? Are they functioning as the shadow to help us become more conscious of feeling. So what I've just read in conversation, God talks about all of the emotions, like fear, love, shame. All the natural emotions that once experienced and allowed to be fully expressed, are completely natural emotions. But all of those emotions, in our current paradigm get suppressed. And anger comes out as rage. And love comes out as possessiveness. So all of all of these different emotions wants suppress comes out in very unnatural emotions. And that is this current state of some people's entire psyche, is just complete repression. Therefore, you know, VR comes out as control, there's all these things that like suppressed fear comes out as like control, because, you know, they weren't allowed to just feel fear as a kid. So, I believe I know narcissism is a real thing, when you think you're at the center of the universe. Yes, that's a real thing. Yes, we've decided to call it that. Can I have moments of narcissistic behavior? Of course, am I highly spiritually aware and awake? Yeah. But I can think that I'm center of universe sometimes. It's just the human condition. And so yes, have they come to be an example of an extreme, I totally believe that these beings that want to try and run countries, they are in a huge extreme of power, expressed of imbalance. They're mentally unbalanced. You know, they're not making decisions consciously, that will have an uplifting effect for the masses. Right? They are the dark side. Well, and and just thinking again, about this continuum of have no empathy, no capacity to empathize and realize the impact you're having on Yeah, you know, on the collective, and then sliding the slider all the way over here. And you know, and so we, you know, the, what is the value, like, as you're thinking that it's about incarnation, and how many times they've come here, or so what happens in all timelines is people volunteer, or stones or volunteer to come be the bad guy, or, you know, what we perceive as the back? There's always those roles, or not always, in this timeline, there's been those roles, for millennia of which we are changing this, this current structure of the world is about to shift, and no one will recognize it. How long how long given that, things can happen like that, you know, what, what's the the length of time that that looks like? It'll take what they're telling me is 20 years, which is not very long. Yeah. Why in a generation? Yeah, in in our generation, we will see that shift. It's already starting. They're already coming out in the news and saying, people are waking up. I heard this in a news reel, that people are not going to listen anymore because they were lied to and they No, they were lied to. And now they're revolting, because they don't believe the government's anymore. People don't believe the government. This is the number one place of the government. That's perfect thing that they did tell people one thing, then everyone bought the program. And it didn't work. And then they know they're lied to. And they're like, so what are you asking me to do? I've seen friends family die from things that government have told them to do. There's so much loss of trust. And then it's like, and then society is like, okay, cool. Well, what the fuck are we left with? If we don't have a government, it's like yourself, and your own inner path and adjoining communities. And then people power. This is where we go. This is where we band together, create community. This is where the power is when we unify the energy. That's why there was so much segregate and try to keep people out in their own houses and like keeping it up, I don't lead groups of more than six together even after like last, like in the last year, they tried to keep us apart. Because we're ascending. And as we ascend, the more people that gather together, the more powerful we affect if we have a common intention. So say we get together or 1000 people meditate together, we have a huge effect on the purchases. When 10,000 When 10% of our society has a common goal of peace. That's all we need. Well, on the reality that everything is so digitized now, and there are so many people coming in meditating together, and, you know, courses and things that are available. I mean, the fact that I know you're, you're in Phoenix, is that where you? Okay? You're not You're not in Australia. You're someplace. No, but I have had conversations with people in Turkey and Australia and you know, different places. And it's remarkable to me, you know, how easy it is to come together? Yes. Yeah, exactly. And then also like on the the, to 20 to 22 portal. At two o'clock, there was this message that I got for us all, no matter what your timezone is just stop and meditate in that moment and for world peace. And so I stopped there and meditated for 22 minutes. Yeah. The, the part of me that loves palindromes was really thrilled that day. Like, I hope someone is wearing a tutu right now. That would have done in Key West, because they do to to Tuesday, do they? For my 22nd birthday. I had a two to party. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm curious to know, you know, in terms of the work that you're doing, and you were saying, like I you know, this is the most significant time in Earth's history, or evolution, what do you see? Like, what, what do you if you could if you could have one impact on the people that you're working with? Or just through your presence alone and existing here? What would that be? What's the thing that you care deeply about? For people to become spiritually awakened? And then not just that, like, total transformation inap. Actually, I'm working on somebody at the moment, that will be a DIY on my website, too. Add a download or just experience from the website. It'll have a small cost. Because I people are more spiritually vested or even just anything bested with that, spend a little bit of cash on it, right? That goes into answering you how you can except that where you are is exactly where you're supposed to be. And what will it take for you to fully commit to that, knowing you don't need to do anything or be anything or think anything or trying to change yourself in any way that you will absolutely perfect exactly where you are. I'm doing a program around that. Just it's got to be like 20 or 30 minutes to dry that that will really bring the energy within. It's talking to my star family as well. Like just knowing that every single he's all the wisdom that anyone needs is within them. Yeah. There's nothing you need is outside of yourself. So that is the gift that I am about to do. Have people know that you are an expression of God and you do not need to go anywhere? To Know yourself? Just really? Yeah. Yeah. And yet there's this it's a bit of a paradox because then there versus Pisa, especially when you're healing from trauma that we, you know, sometimes there's the necessity of external guides for support. And you're talking about the relational piece rather than, you know, you were saying earlier, like, but external? Yeah, they're in your heart. Yeah, they reside inside inside your soul. So, yes, absolutely, it feels like it's an academy, you feel like, you need something that's not you, but it's you. You feel like you're calling on God, or Jesus or Mary that feels like an external energy or being added to you. All you and yes, actually, what else came up when you just said that? It's about dealing with trauma, sometimes going within is the most difficult, most intensely painful thing that you can do. And if that is the case, work with someone, do not go there alone. Get help. Whatever it is, if it's addiction, there's go to the anonymous programs if it's you know, sexual, you, there's more anonymous programs or a therapist or coaches or just don't like if there's fear, to go within a loan, don't don't go and get well, because if you go there and it's too traumatic, it's too discombobulating for the for the nervous system, you won't get anywhere and then what the ego likes to tell you is just don't just don't do it. And that is going to be more destructive for your for getting to your spiritual awakening and the full transformation that every single soul here is desiring, even if you don't know Yeah, on a soul level, that is what you have come here for is transformation and a spiritual awakening. So the ego will try and try and tell you all sorts of different things. But there are so many beautiful beings out there that can help. Yeah. And I would love if you would be willing to lead us in a meditation or some kind of exercise that you feel will benefit people in that process of, you know, self acceptance, because that's what I hear that DIY program on your website will be it's really about an embracing and accepting of who you are, and recognizing what you have inside. And so whatever you feel would be beneficial. I would love if you could lead us. Sure, I'd love to thank you. Let's just now close our eyes, gently close your eyes and relax. Take a deep breath in. Hold it at the top, then a breath out and hold it at the bottom. Do one more of those. Breathe in hold it at the top and then hold a poem. Just imagine your body bathed in a beautiful golden light and you're sitting inside a beautiful purple bubble. You are safe. You are happy. You are totally relaxed and at peace. Continue to take deep breaths in and now as we just feel the unification of the energy know that you are one with the universe expressed as the beautiful person that you are connected to source through your heartlight within. Take a deep breath in and out. Place your left hand on your heart and your right hand over your left hand allowing all of your mental energy to drop down into your heart center. In your heart you find a diamond within this diamond may be shining. It may not. What you're going to do is you're going to prove your intentions and your love and compassion and kindness and grace is going to get out the cloth of compassion and shine your diamond in your heart. As you shine that you can see your face in the faces of this time. We can see your inner with When you can see the guides that you have chosen to travel with you, you can see that you have every single thing inside of you that you need. All you need to do sometimes is a little bit of work, to shine off the DeBary of life to see your theory and your inner wisdom and your inner guide. Take a deep breath in. And now know that all that you will ever need is in your heart. The energy of your heart is where all your wisdom lives. All your knowingness all the energy you need to live your life. God Jesus, all of your guides, the angels, the Ascended Masters, they're all with it within you inside of you. Just relax now into that nice into that present room allowing any thoughts to gently dissolve into the air around you. Now just relax your hands down on your knees enjoying your thumb and index finger and just feel what trust feels like. You trust yourself to be the master creator of your own existence. You have masterfully come to this point in your life. making the right choices even if you felt they were wrong they were right. There they are what you wanted to do at a soul level what you desire to do at a soul level to get you right where you are today. You are a divine expression of God and you deserve every single piece of perfection that you can create and manifest feel the trust you trust yourself. You trust all of those around you. You trust the divine power you trust the universe to provide the you are completely relaxed in this true allow any doubts. Any old pattern energy to just slowly melt away from your soul like now allow it to just get filtered down into Mother Earth energy. Then completely cleansed from your system. You are 100% Divine and 100% human then you deserve to live the most highest vibrational existence that you can water law. Take a deep breath in and out as you come out of this meditation, find a pen and paper and write out all of the things that you would like to manifest in your life. To start living in your sleep energy. Take a deep breath in again and out. Open your eyes come into this present moment and know that you are one with source. Thank you. So is there anything else that you want to share? Or how can how can listeners find you thank you for the opportunity to share that meditation. So I have a website. It's my name Sara's Sarah J strong.com. That's S A R A H Jay for Juliet, s t r o n g.com. If you would like to book a session, or jump on my meditation group, go to forward slash offerings. And I would love to hear from you, you can send me a message through my website. I'm also on Facebook and Instagram, Instagram is Sarah, underscore the underscore strong, feel free to send me a private message through there, I'd love to say hi, and connect. And Facebook is Sarah Strobel. So it's been an absolute pleasure to be here. Thank you for your amazing questions, Shana really, really was very magical. Thank you. Thank you so much. I look forward to connecting at some later date. Yes, likewise. I hope you found that meditation to be resonant, deepening self trust and being reminded periodically I have everything I need inside of me is essential. So thank you, Sarah, for that. For many of you, we may have covered some subject matter today that is new. And hopefully you can take what is useful and leave the rest as well as get curious about anything that may have felt counterintuitive and outside the box for you. 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[00:00:00] Charna Cassell: Welcome back to Late Open Podcast. During my hiatus from recording , I’ve been building an online course on how to live the passionate, pleasure filled, peaceful life you want, reduce self sabotaging behavior, and gain control over your nervous system. [00:00:14] Charna Cassell: Creating courses for people around the world to understand the impact of trauma on their nervous system and relationships, and how they can heal is something I’ve wanted to do for over a decade. I’m thrilled it’s finally happening. I’ll keep you posted as to when it’s launching. For now, you can also sign up for my newsletter, read my blog, or send questions to be answered at charnacassell.[00:00:38] Charna Cassell: com. Today’s guest is Aileen Rah Em. She’s a spiritual guide, energy healer, teacher, and writer, and her mission is to establish solid foundations for spiritual growth and soul fulfillment. Welcome, Aileen.[00:00:53] [00:01:38] Aline Ra M: Thank you so much for having me, China. Happy to talk to you today.[00:01:43] Charna Cassell: Yeah, I’ve been looking forward to this conversation. And I feel like it’s a important one regarding people understanding what You know, like, I don’t want to, I don’t want to take anything for granted, right? Like, I may know what a spiritual guide is, but I want people who’ve never heard of that or don’t necessarily comprehend what that could be to get it.[00:02:07] Charna Cassell: And so if we could even just start with that, like a basic description of when you call yourself a spiritual guide, what that means to you, because there’s so many flavors out there.[00:02:20] Aline Ra M: Yes, there’s so many different sides of it. It’s as I see it, the main role of the spiritual guide is to help release people from suffering. Now, when we actually go through what that means, we have so many different angles that we could approach that through. I could also say that my job is to help people stay on their path.[00:02:40] Aline Ra M: Or my job is to inspire and motivate people to keep going because it can be a hard path spiritual growth. I could also say that my job is to give people the right practices, the right things for their challenges. For their blockages, because the spiritual guide can assess people’s energy feud and see exactly what they need.[00:03:02] Aline Ra M: So they don’t do random practices that they just read in a book or saw in a YouTube channel that can actually harm them instead of helping them. So I could say all those things, but the core is really to help release people from suffering.[00:03:15] Aline Ra M: This is what all those things, all these different angles. Are doing and it even brings the question of where does suffering come from and we can talk about ego and delusions and desires that are so tied with spiritual growth, which is what I love, but I understand that for some people that can be so abstract.[00:03:37] Aline Ra M: And so far away.
[00:03:38] Aline Ra M: We can talk about helping people stay in their path because it is so easy to get distracted, to have shiny objects, to be afraid and to get out of our path. If we look around us, most people around us are not living in joy. They’re not living their purpose. It is easier to stay out of our path than to stay in our path.[00:04:01] Aline Ra M: The spiritual guide is a person who will help you to stay in your path.[00:04:06] Charna Cassell: And so somebody could ask, well, what does that mean? How would you even know if you were on your path or off your path? So,[00:04:15] Aline Ra M: We know energetically by feeling and by seeing what is happening in a person’s energy field, if the energy field is aligned, if it’s harmonized, what kind of blockages are presenting themselves there. When we have too many blockages, it’s almost impossible to leave our purpose and we need to clear them in order to simply be able to walk our path. [00:04:39] Charna Cassell: I hear what you’re saying but that it may not be as concrete for people. And so an example of here, you know, could be something like, that you’re really attached to staying with this particular person because you don’t want to get a divorce and the stigma that goes along with divorce.[00:04:55] Charna Cassell: And, but then there’s crisis after crisis. You could even be having physical healing crises when you stay in this particular relationship and that may not be part of what you’re aligned with and be on your path. And so to release that and to step away from a certain thing that you’ve been so attached to could actually mean you’re stepping onto your path.[00:05:18] Charna Cassell: Is that an example?[00:05:19] Aline Ra M: could be one thing. And it’s linked to the idea of suffering or simply struggling. Normally when we struggle, we are not in our path. We are struggling against. Our path, because we are not allowing ourselves to accept something. So every time we’re struggling with life, we are out of alignment. And I like to say the life is challenging. We need challenges to grow. So it’s not like sunflowers and rainbows not supposed to be because growth requires us to get out of our comfort zone, but challenge and struggle is. Very different things. We’re not here to hustle, [00:05:57] Aline Ra M: We’re here to thrive by overcoming our challenges. So we can see the energy of struggling, like struggling with our work, struggling with stress, struggling with frustration. All of those signs is that we are fighting with ourselves, we’re struggling with ourselves.00:06:15] Charna Cassell: Right.[00:06:16] Aline Ra M: Yeah.[00:06:16] Charna Cassell: And can you share some about how you came to this path, like some about, concretely about the challenges that you encountered that you overcame that helped you be clear about your path?[00:06:29] Aline Ra M: So I had two main moments in my life that brought me to this path in very different ways. The first one was when I was just a teenager, I was 12, I started being able to hear voices. I started being able to hear things that were not there. And that just was a natural opening. And it was scary.[00:06:49] Aline Ra M: And at the same time, it took me to have curiosity. So that’s how it started. I had a natural opening that Asked me to be able to protect myself because it was not that easy to manage. And it was a not nice things that was happening. It’s not like I was seeing an angel, quite the opposite. So I was like, okay, I need to be able to take care of myself. And the second side is because I had this opening, I had this awareness that was something more. I knew I was not crazy. And then came the question, what the hell is this place? What the hell is this that I’m going through that nobody can see. And they know it’s very real. And that took me to a path of spirituality based on mysticism and occultism of understanding energy, understanding what kinds of energy were there.[00:07:38] Aline Ra M: And it was purely from this point of view. What are these different layers of existence? What is this place? How do I work with energy? How do I do rituals? How do I protect myself? It had nothing to do with personal development. Absolutely zero. So when I was a teenager, what happened is that I joined my first mystery school.[00:07:58] Aline Ra M: So I joined back then the Rosicrucian order. And a few years later I joined Gnosis. So I’ve been on a path, mystery schools, initiation based for a long time, but I never cared about it in terms of personal development and my joy. I was just fascinated by the magical aspect of it.[00:08:17] Aline Ra M: And it was in my late thirties.[00:08:19] Aline Ra M: That I started having a series of breakdowns of seriously hating my life and that took me first to Buddhism. And that started clicking so many things inside of me. Because in a way I already had all the energy from my previous experiences. I just had never put it in such an angle. So when came like this personal development part that I just needed to fix my life.[00:08:47] Aline Ra M: Then it all clicked together and all made sense.[00:08:50] Charna Cassell: You got to apply all the tools that you had been developing.[00:08:54] Aline Ra M: Yeah,[00:08:55] Charna Cassell: Can I ask, so when you were 12 and you were starting to have these experiences that felt scary and new did you have other adults or resources in your life that you could turn to?[00:09:08] Aline Ra M: not directly not in my own place. My, my parents are both scientists. They don’t believe in anything like that. So they don’t know up until now, they don’t really know what happened. I, it was always so clear in me that I couldn’t tell them that it wouldn’t be safe [00:09:25] Charna Cassell: Yeah. Mm hmm. [00:09:27] Aline Ra M: not saying that my parents are bad people.[00:09:29] Aline Ra M: It’s just, they would do what they could in the best reasoning in their loving way is just that would be mostly taking me to medication, which is not what I needed. And they knew even then, back then, my intuition was always very clear on that. At the same time, I was lucky to born and raised in an island in Brazil, where there are many mystery schools.[00:09:53] Aline Ra M: They are hidden. Most of my friends, if I talk to them even up to today, they don’t know about it, but they exist. And so what happened I knew I was supposed to be in a school. I always knew that. I just didn’t know which one. The one back then that I saw everywhere was like Freemasons.[00:10:11] Aline Ra M: I had so many friends being initiated as Freemasons back then, but then it’s only for boys. And I was like, I know there’s something for me. I know it exists, but I don’t know when. And I was having this conversation with like a group of friends. And one of the girls that I barely knew up to then, she looked at me and said, you know, my mom is seeing one of them.[00:10:30] Aline Ra M: I can just ask her and you can join her. And so that is how it happened.[00:10:35] Charna Cassell: Oh, how amazing.[00:10:36] Aline Ra M: I ended up having that support because when I joined then many things started changing.[00:10:41] Charna Cassell: Yeah, it’s so important that piece of having, you know, first of all, like getting to be seen[00:10:48] Aline Ra M: Yeah.[00:10:49] Charna Cassell: and having that mutual understanding and having somebody guide you and then you’re now serving as that guide for people who may not understand what’s happening for them. also really curious, I see.[00:11:00] Charna Cassell: trauma often as a gateway to spiritual awakening and opening and that people who’ve experienced different kinds of trauma there can be this I see it as you Don’t have the direct resource in your family system to be protected or safe, and that often there, it opens this other realm or access to non consensual reality.[00:11:25] Charna Cassell: And I’m curious if that if you relate to that, and if that is part of your story at all in terms of what you think if you look back and go. What contributed to the development or the capacity that I had to see things that other people couldn’t see. Do you have an understanding of that?[00:11:44] Aline Ra M: Well, at the same time, I think some of us actually came for that and that something had to happen for that to open. I don’t see like necessarily that there was a setting that allowed that opening as much as I was supposed to have that opening. And at the same time, the listening to the voices were extremely traumatic for me, caused me to have a lot of insomnia early in my life, even after that was healed, my nervous system took forever to be able to sleep well.[00:12:13] Aline Ra M: So that was very strong in me. So for a long time, I could curse that. I hated those voices. I hated insomnia. But at the same time, it led me to see there was something there. It did its purpose of taking me to my path. So that is more what I see, that those events, especially early in age, have a role.[00:12:35] Aline Ra M: Of taking us to our path because we can always ignore them and it often happens that children when they’re very young. They have this opening and they shut it down in my case. I was lucky to have that in an age that I couldn’t really shut it down. It’s like you’re already 12 to 3. There’s nothing you can do.[00:12:55] Aline Ra M: You’re going to remember this. [00:12:57] Charna Cassell: Right. Yeah, that kids at certain ages may have experiences that they then just don’t even have recollection of [00:13:05] Charna Cassell: that opening. [00:13:06] Aline Ra M: At the same time, it’s like it’s a realm that we don’t fully understand even if we studied so much, even if we’re fully in it, it is full of mysteries. And then for me, I don’t even understand up to now if there was something palpable and concrete that triggered that event, or was that event supposed to happen to be able to open me to my path?[00:13:30] Aline Ra M: I don’t [00:13:31] Aline Ra M: know. I don’t know. Like it’s chicken and eggs. I really don’t know.
[00:13:34] Charna Cassell: Yeah. Yeah. That’s what I was asking. It’s just the sense of like, there are things that make the veil thinner for some people. And often I see that trauma is that. And that what I’m hearing from you is that the actual opening was traumatic and it was hard to integrate and you, your nervous system had to recover from not understanding and being so afraid.[00:13:54] Charna Cassell: And lack of sleep alone is a huge upheaval in people’s lives. And you know, can be so dysregulating, but that there, it wasn’t something specific. There was no precipitating event that, that, you know, led up to this moment.[00:14:11] Aline Ra M: And it is true that some people can go through some trauma that cause openings, like for instance astral traveling that many people report having near death experiences. But sometimes we also have to understand this certain spiritual events when caused by accidents. actually are accidents. They don’t necessarily happen in a good way, that keeps the integrity of the etheric body.[00:14:39] Aline Ra M: Sometimes having those random openings that were caused by accidents and are forceful actually creates trauma in the energetic field as well, and that person will need energy healing. Because that was not the natural connection. That was not a sustainable path. It was a blitz in the matrix, so to say.[00:15:03] Aline Ra M: And that creates fractures that need to be repaired.[00:15:07] Charna Cassell: And is that something that you help people with?[00:15:10] Aline Ra M: Yes, as well, yeah.[00:15:11] Aline Ra M: So it’s very different as well. If we talk about activations and Kundalini activations and things like that, it’s very different. A person who has been on the path of yoga and purification and releasing formigo and creating a container that is sustainable, that can sustain the energy. Who has a strong nervous system to deal with that with somebody who has like one specific event that has an activation, you know, goes to one specific ritual, it can break them apart, it can be too much for them because they don’t have what it takes to sustain that.[00:15:45] Aline Ra M: So I’m more as a spiritual guide, I prefer working with things that are self sustained than direct connections. Which requires us to prepare ourselves to hold that. So it can be a lot of work, but it’s a work that we can sustain throughout our lives.[00:16:03] Charna Cassell: Right. Right. What that brings up for me is thinking about the difference between. Slow regular practice and listening to your own pace, because even Kundalini awakenings can just shatter people. I mean, it’s very disruptive if your system can’t hold the amount of energy that you’ve suddenly conjured.[00:16:21] Charna Cassell: And then it has me think about you know, medicine work is so popular now. Right. It’s at least in the Bay Area. It’s everywhere. And That there are these very intense experiences that, you know, some people in order to create a crack in the ego, they may need a more intense experience, but to assume that everyone needs the same thing.[00:16:43] Charna Cassell: And then what’s the integration process afterwards? And also like the sustained change, right? You’re talking about sustainable change.
[00:16:53] Aline Ra M: Yes, a sustainable change that we can hold ourselves because we are divine. We don’t need intermediaries. We can have people’s help to show certain keys to activate things in us, but we need to be able to hold that we are the container. We are the vessel. So in my way of seeing it, it’s not exactly spiritual growth if we are having like just outsourcing the channel, you know, we are the channel.[00:17:21] Aline Ra M: And I understand as well that many spiritual. Experiences that are extremely powerful in extremely high vibration are not necessarily a drama in terms of excessive energy. And some people are so desensitized that they need an experience that throws them off.[00:17:43] Charna Cassell: right.[00:17:44] Aline Ra M: You know, I mean, the more sensitive you are, like spirit is everywhere, energy is moving all the time. I don’t know how it is for you, but like, get me to sleep in bed, and I’m going to have all kinds of energy flowing with me, like, in one second, I don’t need to do anything. And I’m not saying this to brag, I’m just saying, this is what happens when we are channels, we all can do that, but we need to cultivate that, we need to clear ourselves for that.[00:18:08] Aline Ra M: And looking for shortcuts, of course, if you have never had any contact with this spirituality before, it could be good just to show you it exists, you know? Just to motivate you, inspire you to walk on the path. But that in itself is not a self sustainable path. It is not the connection creating your channel.[00:18:31] Aline Ra M: It is quite the opposite. It can actually burn your channel, making it even harder to create a self sustained connection, because it’s a crazy amount of fire inside of a person who cannot sustain that. So it can actually burn your fuses, making it much harder to create a self sustained connection with the divine.[00:18:53] Charna Cassell: Yeah, and I think one of the things that you said that’s really important is the desensitization that can happen in so many circumstances, right? So whether it’s that you live in a culture where there’s sugar in everything you eat, and then your, taste buds get desensitized to sweetness, or, you know, I worked at a a co op, a worker owned sex toy store and we did a lot of sex education and there’d be porn playing in the back room while we’re eating sandwiches at lunch.[00:19:22] Charna Cassell: And so it’s like these things that you just like, you just get really desensitized to talking about certain things or seeing certain things or and then in terms of, you know, drugs. Or, you know, other sources taking something in, like what you’re referring to is, you know, you can nature in itself, you don’t need to even be on something, but like nature in itself can be the magic can be.[00:19:45] Charna Cassell: There, you can see the energy and have a spiritual experience using your own body, like cleaning your system out very, you know, historically speaking, like fasting and depriving yourself of like, you know, media so that you’re just creating an open space for what is to actually speak to you and communicate with you rather than filling your mind and filling your belly and filling everything so that spirit can’t get in [00:20:14] Aline Ra M: Absolutely. You’re absolutely right. I mean, we’re in a society that is so addicted to busyness, to doing things. And then when people want to connect with the divine, they just add stuff to their list. Go to the ceremony, do this, do that. But in reality, we are all naturally connected. It is more about stop doing the things that are disconnecting us.[00:20:36] Aline Ra M: So it is more about letting go. Letting go of the news. Letting go of foods. Like foods drastically disconnect us if we don’t eat well. So just eating well makes a huge difference in this work. Because your vessel is going to be clean for the connection. So treating our bodies as our temples, doing less, paying more attention, listening more.[00:21:02] Aline Ra M: Everything is relationships. The spirit is constantly communicating with us and so are the elements. So our ability to listen is crucial, but we cannot listen if we’re always busy, doesn’t work.[00:21:16] Charna Cassell: And the people that find you, do you feel like the people that end up finding you, they’re already on a path or they’re at the beginning? Like who are the people that you tend to work with most?[00:21:27] Aline Ra M: I work with different types of people. Some people were really on the path. They just never had like a guide with somebody giving the practices, but they being very serious about their practices in their own way. But I also work a lot with people. They’re just beginning in their path. And I do have clients.[00:21:43] Aline Ra M: For instance, I have exactly the setting that we were just talking about that. Try it out a few different, went to ayahuasca or mushroom ceremonies a few times and got curious and think that they already know quite a bit So I have one program focusing on people who haven’t had a consistent spiritual practice yet For they to create the first blocks of foundations for their practice.[00:22:09] Charna Cassell: And you’re tuning in and specifically creating practices for their system and them because, you know, one person needs to learn how to root down and connect into the earth. Another person needs to learn how to connect up and so on. [00:22:24] Aline Ra M: In one of the programs. Yes. One of my programs would do exactly that in my other program for people who are just beginning. I have a more standard practices that I give all of them. So they understand how certain energetic mechanisms work. and have a toolbox to help them. So when they are panicking, they know what to do, when they need to relax, they know what to do, they understand what purification is, and they can see the ego, which is the most important part for me, to make sure that people who are just beginning can understand what the hell ego even means in practice, because they can see How they are fighting with themselves all the time.[00:23:05] Aline Ra M: And I know that for some people that doesn’t sound interesting at all when they say, but and that’s not how I market the program as well. It is about connection, likeness, and clarity a hundred percent. But it has an effect as well of allowing the person to understand what is out of place. naturally by doing the practices.[00:23:25] Aline Ra M: And from that moment onwards, when they can see what the ego is, then we can do the real stuff.[00:23:32] Charna Cassell: Can you give an example of some of the things that are in your program that help guide someone to be able to be separate enough to be able to see ego and conceive of that?[00:23:46] Aline Ra M: This program is about setting solid foundations for spiritual development and bringing your likeness connection and clarity because this, it absolutely does. So you will be feeling lighter, more connected and clear. So in a way you will get clarity of like, normally people start because they want to have more clarity of what they want, their purpose, their direction, and they will definitely get that.[00:24:16] Aline Ra M: It gets those tangible aspects that people are looking for. It is just that the way it does it, it’s just by showing what is not okay. And so, for instance, many people on this program actually start realizing how much control issues they have. We all think we understand our control issues, but they are so much, like, like, bigger than we think.[00:24:38] Aline Ra M: They hide in so many small things all the time, and control is based on fear. The moment that we can see how we are so scared, everything changes because we just want to get rid of that fear. We don’t want to keep going with that fear, but it’s something that I can talk to people about it. but It doesn’t sound as strong as when you actually feel it, the program allows people to feel it.[00:25:01] Aline Ra M: And that’s when the key turns of what the, like, we always talk about authenticity, like to live our lives fully to be our authentic selves. We all want that. But not necessarily understand what it means there are certain things that we have to be put on the spot ourselves to see how we actually don’t feel safe being ourselves. [00:25:24] Charna Cassell: I mean, I feel like what a spiritual journey is about full self acceptance. know, to be able to move through all the, I’m too much, I’m not enough, I’m not worthy, et cetera and all the ways those stories play out in your family or response to culture or response to religion [00:25:43] Aline Ra M: yeah. That’s a beautiful place to begin if we can. Accept ourselves and acknowledge what we want that we have a beautiful path ahead of us to walk without shame with self love because at the end of the day, self love is the core of every type of growth, be it spiritual growth, be it personal development, be it empowerment.[00:26:08] Aline Ra M: It comes from this place of loving ourselves so much that how could we possibly shut ourselves down. [00:26:13] Charna Cassell: Right, right. And so much of the shutting down and that’s what a lot of my work is about with people is is helping them not shut those places down, not kink the hoses to allow everything to flow through them. But yes, people do shut those things down in order to be acceptable, in order to be palatable, in order to be safe, you know, in, in the process of trying to get love, right?[00:26:36] Charna Cassell: And not get kicked out of the herd.[00:26:39] Aline Ra M: Yeah. And if we can realize that, then it’s great. If we can see that’s what we’re doing, that’s a huge step.[00:26:46] Charna Cassell: And you pointed to this, which is, you know, we can talk about it but to be in the practice is a different thing because until you have that visceral experience, it’s really hard to trust or believe. And then once you have those visceral experiences, which come from practice, then it’s replicable, right?[00:27:07] Charna Cassell: And then it becomes self sustaining versus like some one off mystical. experience or something you’ve read and you conceptually agree with but don’t know how to actually apply.[00:27:20] Aline Ra M: Yeah. Absolutely. Spirituality is so much about liberation as Liberating ourselves from ourselves so that we can be releasing from anything that is not allowing us to accept, to embrace who we are.[00:27:34] Charna Cassell: Right. Right. That’s , also another big piece of the work that I do with people it’s a microcosm. I always, people come to me to work around sexuality a lot, but Your sexual self expression is a microcosm for other parts of your life. And so if you’re shutting a certain thing down, how can it not impact your sexual self expression?[00:27:52] Charna Cassell: And so like, what do you see with people around when they’ve liberated certain things in your program? gIven that sexual trauma is actually so frequent and it’s so common, what have you seen with people you’ve worked with around that?[00:28:09] Aline Ra M: About sexual trauma or[00:28:10] Charna Cassell: Around liberation from, right? In the process Of healing spiritually, how that then can impact your sexual self expression and freedom in that area.[00:28:23] Aline Ra M: I Mean, sexual energy is. completely necessary for any kind of energy work, but sometimes we just don’t realize that. What I see most with my clients is to switch to calmness, to acceptance in terms of patience.[00:28:37] Aline Ra M: That it’s okay. Everything is okay. And focus on what I would like, not focus on what is not okay, on, on the worries and on the problems and on repeating the same self talk that is based on hate and judgment. It’s fine. I see things for what they are.[00:28:58] Aline Ra M: There is no drama,[00:29:00] Aline Ra M: We live in a society that is always Like the emotional reaction like it’s endless reactive emotionally, you know, and people think that this is like being alive and normal. They sometimes people think that people that are a bit impartial and like are kind of distanced and cold. But for me, that is like the purest expression of love. Love that is consciousness. Love that has a big picture and sees the whole thing,[00:29:29] Aline Ra M: Reacting to a small event all the time. [00:29:33] Aline Ra M: Well, it’s coming to this place of awareness.[00:29:36] Charna Cassell: And having more neutrality or equanimity and not personalizing things so much, right? Like that[00:29:45] Charna Cassell: piece. [00:29:46] Aline Ra M: And I’m not overreacting on things. Not as like, this happens, this is good. That happens. This is bad. You know, it’s it is what it is.[00:29:55] Aline Ra M: Then if I can see reality for what it is without judgments, then I can decide how to act on it, to go towards the direction that I want it to go. Not in a manipulative way, but in a neutral way, because we all have powers over all the energies that are around us.[00:30:13] Aline Ra M: And so it’s just understanding our powers and the comparison of our powers with the powers of the universe. We are God. And so we can start acting as such instead of victimizing ourselves or losing our temper or any of other things that happens so easily.[00:30:31] Charna Cassell: When you’re working with someone who’s had a lot of trauma, do you, do, first of all, I guess that’s the first question, do those clients come to you? And if so Shifting out of a victim’s story into being able to, you know, unwind that and see that as an archetype that they’re learning from is its own process.[00:30:56] Charna Cassell: And so I’m curious about your approach[00:30:58] Charna Cassell: there. [00:31:00] Aline Ra M: So, I mean, we all have trauma, not big traumas, of course, they’re big traumas, there’s no traumas, but we all have traumas. I Wouldn’t say that people necessarily come to me for trauma. I’m not like a trauma specialist. That is not what I focus on, but at the same time, what is blocking us?[00:31:18] Aline Ra M: from connection is trauma. So we are always, that is what we’re purifying at the end of the day. The way that I work with people, it’s not like I’m not a therapist, I’m not a psychologist, so I’m not going to talk to people about their trauma. Of course they’re open to share. I’ll be more scanning their energy to understand where it is for what it needs, what is influencing, what kind of practice he needs.[00:31:42] Aline Ra M: My work is. A lot based on practices. I give the people the practices that they need to do to shift the energy so I don’t go through the mind. The mind is not my path. I explain things. I talk to people about things so they understand how energy works because I don’t also don’t want them just to do the practice but not understand what is it that we’re doing.[00:32:04] Aline Ra M: It’s important for me that they have like an understanding even to have a good understanding because there’s so much naivety about how energy works. So to help them create that awareness of what this planet really is. But that’s sad. I don’t stay on the mental level. I don’t try to fix trauma.[00:32:24] Aline Ra M: talking. And most of my clients are actually online. I have some clients in person, some online, a healing sessions online and in person. So even with my online clients, I won’t be just talking. I will be transferring energy. I will be explaining to them their practices. And of course we will talk, but not as a therapist, not to try to solve the problem, just to understand energetically.[00:32:54] Aline Ra M: What is happening?[00:32:58] Charna Cassell: And is there a particular practice that you’d like to lead our listeners through?[00:33:06] Aline Ra M: Oh, I didn’t think about that. I love, there’s a very simple practice that I love and for some people they will say this is not spirituality, but it is in so many different levels, which is [00:33:19] Charna Cassell: Right. [00:33:20] Aline Ra M: So if you close your eyes and just put yourself very lightly with your fingertips around your body.[00:33:27] Aline Ra M: When I’m saying this, that this has so many different benefits. It’s. Suffering to your nervous system, which is so necessary for spiritual growth. The more we grow on this path, the more energy starts going through us. And we need to be able to handle that energy. So, self touch, very light touch with your fingertips. Going through any part of your body. You can go through your face, chest, your legs. Handling with you as you’re listening to my voice. xploring your body for any sensation. Calming yourself. This is beautiful to do in bed. If you’re having trouble falling asleep, just calming. A good five minutes of this at night before you go to bed is and it can also be used in the morning as you come out of bed for self connection, for greeting yourself before beginning the day, coming to yourself. One other reason that I love this practice is that touch is the sense of the heart. Each chakra is connected to a sense. And by stimulating your skin, you also get to clear your heart and bring more lightness into your heart. So for me, this is a practice. Yeah, it works with the heart. It works with the nervous system.[00:35:11] Aline Ra M: It is soothing. It will allow more energy to flow through you because it is soothing to the nervous system. So it has so many benefits. The spiritual practices can be a seat for one hour. Doing a specific thing in meditation, but they can also be light and playful and joyful and exploratory.[00:35:32] Charna Cassell: That’s super important, Swede, and I know you have a book, Bullshit Free Mindfulness, and that you have a bunch of different kinds of practices in there that can be done rather quickly, and that it doesn’t have to be that people go, Oh, in order to meditate, I have to put off, like, Oh, I have to be available for an hour, or, Oh, I have to have the right cushion, or all those excuses that we can make.[00:35:59] Aline Ra M: No, I mean, we are here to live. You’re right. We’re here to live. We’re here to enjoy. And life presents so many opportunities for us to do just that. It’s just that we’re so busy, so caught up somewhere else that we lose these opportunities.[00:36:16] Charna Cassell: Yeah.[00:36:16] Aline Ra M: So for me, a big part is to come back to the small pleasures of life, to appreciating the food we’re eating, our teacup, listening to our favorite song fully and singing along instead of just being a background, [00:36:32] Charna Cassell: hmm. Mm hmm. [00:36:32] Aline Ra M: like paying attention to those things, how we are actually a part of it.[00:36:37] Aline Ra M: Living our lives, the how is as important as the what.[00:36:41] Charna Cassell: Right. It’s one of the things about that practice that I appreciate is that as a child, and I think a lot of people could probably relate to this, you know, there’s a certain age, especially for girls, where we would do that, we would tickle each other’s arms, you know, and even this week in a session, I had a client who was having a lot of anxiety and she was just not conscious that she was doing it, but she was, I brought it to her attention that she was tickling and stroking and it was like, she just knew there’s an innate wisdom in her as there are.[00:37:13] Charna Cassell: Bye. Bye. There isn’t everyone that we know ways to soothe ourselves. We know ways to ground or open our own hearts. And we just may not even realize what we’re engaging in that process. So,[00:37:27] Aline Ra M: Exactly. If we just stop to listen to ourselves and observe what is happening, we’re gonna find great treasures there for sure. [00:37:34] Charna Cassell: Anything else? I know that you also have an eight week program for spiritual development. Is there anything else that you want to share and how people can reach you?[00:37:44] Aline Ra M: I mean, I have quite a few different types of programs, depending on where people are on their path. Regardless, the best way to work with me is to book a breakthrough call. So this is a first call without commitment where I assess your field and give you direction. Even if you’re not working with me after, you still get direction.[00:38:05] Aline Ra M: And if you consider working with me, I’ll see exactly where you fit in the things that I offer. Okay. I give healing sessions. I have online courses, so my website is a full plate, like a full buffet there. So if you go to Elin sorry, elin do com, I think you have it on the show notes as well. So it’s I don’t need to spell here.[00:38:25] Aline Ra M: I have a guide, a free guide called What is Spiritual Growth. which I think it’s a great beginning on this path. It is extremely practical and hands on in its example. So if you go to elindram. com spiritual growth, you can find that. [00:38:43] Aline Ra M: You will also find on my website, a free masterclass to how to connect with the divine. So these are a few of the offers that I have to support you on your path.[00:38:54] Charna Cassell: Beautiful.[00:38:54] Aline Ra M: yeah, the best place to find me is on my website and on YouTube is Alinram as well. All mysteries there.[00:39:02] Aline Ra M: Thank you so much for having me today, Sharon It was fun talking to you.[00:39:05] Charna Cassell: well thank you again. It was good to meet you.

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